Adema Interview & Review
by Paul Gunnels
In about my second week of being a staff
writer for antiMUSIC, I signed up to do a concert review for the band Adema.
Touring with them was a norCal band called Shortie which ironically I had
heard five years ago when I downloaded a song by them off the internet.
Based on what I heard then and currently already having Adema's first two
CDs I knew this was going to be a good show. Little did I know, there was
much more to come from this than just a concert review. Soon after I signed
up, I was asked to interview Shortie. Despite the fact that I have never
interviewed anyone before, let alone a band, I knew that I wouldn't be
able to pass this up. Within a few days I was asked if I would also interview
Adema which I really couldn't pass up; so I agreed without a second thought.
Adema's first self titled record was released
in 2001 and later became RIAA Gold certified. There was also the unheard
of main stage slot at the 2001 Ozzfest tour with only one CD behind their
belt. Adema was also widely known from the relationship between lead singer
Marky Chavez and Korn's Jonathan Davis; as they are half brothers. After
their debut release, Adema went out to release an EP and a second full
length album titled Unstable. A few weeks after the release of Unstable,
Arista (Adema's record label) was involved in a major reshuffling of their
parent company and left Adema without a record label. Luckily independent
record label Earache picked up Adema and signed them.
However, if loosing your record deal is
not hard enough, Mike (guitarist) left with Marky soon to follow, leaving
Kris (drums), Tim (Guitar), and Dave (bass) in the dirt. With this recipe
for disaster, most bands would crumble; but not Adema. The three remaining
members went foreword without hesitation and started working on their third
full length album without a lead singer. In the mean time, the band came
up with a strategy to find a singer to complete the album, later titled
Planets. They soon came across their perfect link, a guy by the
name of Luke Caraccioli who is also from the same hometown as Adema; Bakersfield,
California. Before long, what seemed to be a certain death for the band
was now the best thing that had ever happened to them. To get a more inside
scoop on everything, I sat down and talked about the past, present, and
future of Adema. What was intended to be a simple interview, ended up being
a "pouring out" as drummer Kris Kohls described it afterwards.
antiMUSIC: This is the first tour with
the bands revised lineup, how has it been going so far?
Kris: Good. Really good.
Dave: Actually we have been having
some great shows. We're in Flint Michigan tonight, obviously. It's good
to come back to Detroit (laughsand then correcting himself, it's good to
be back in Michigan; we haven't been here in a while. We had a killer show
in St. Louis last night and we're having a good time.
antiMUSIC: How has the crowed been welcoming
Luke and the "new" Adema?
Luke: The crowed has been real receptive.
Dave:
With open arms.
Luke: They actually like the new
songs, some people are like "wow I didn't know what to expect" or "I haven't
heard you guys in a while," "I didn't know what happened to you guys" or
something like that.
Dave: I haven't had anyone come
up and say "Hey I don't like your new stuff"
Kris: No I haven't heard anyone
say that.
antiMUSIC: In reading through the CD
booklet I saw that two of you (Tim & Dave) thank Luke for coming into
the band. To me, I would think he would be the one thanking you for the
opportunity. In your eyes, what has Luke brought to Adema?
Dave: ohh well s***, my life basically
(laughs). He's actually saved the whole livelihood of the band. Not to
make the guy blush or anything since he is sitting right next to me (laughs).
He's kind of brought us back to life really I mean it's kind of like he
was the mouth piece of the band basically. You know that's kind of your
bands identity. We're all strong musicians and I give Tim, Kris, and myself
a lot of credit for sticking through what would have killed a lesser band.
A lot of friends of mine bands are getting dropped and they fall apart,
they can't hang once that golden ring is taken away from you. We wanted
a tight unit, we realized how strong we were individually and collectively
as Adema but we still had that missing link, Luke came in and put it back
together.
Kris: Have you seen Rocky 3?
antiMUSIC: Yeah
Kris: You know right before Rocky
gets the eye of the tiger and he has to fight Mr. T at the steps. But he
still has faith and he keeps fighting. When Luke came into this band, we
got the eye of the tiger. (everyone laughs)
Tim: One eye feed the fire, one
eye burns desire. (everyone laughs)
antiMUSIC: That was deep.
Tim: Thank you, thank you.
antiMUSIC (directed to Luke) - I read
through the Rewind Yesterday forums and there seems to be mixed emotions
about your departure. How was leaving Rewind Yesterday?
Luke: I'm still friends with those
guys and I wish the best for them. I understand that they are not doing
a whole lot but they're going to do something; all those guys are going
to be successful and somebody in life and really for me I just feel like
that band wasn't the band I was supposed to be in, this one is. That was
just another live lesson learned on your way to where you're supposed to
be. Everything happens for a reason.
(at this point in the interview, someone
comes into the trailer and interrupts the interview. This leads to side
talk but we get back on track.)
antiMUSIC: Before this American tour,
you guys played in the Persian Gulf: this was the first time playing with
Luke who happens to be an ex-marine, how was that experience?
Luke: That was way cool man. Going
over there playing for the troops, you know I know what they go through.
I didn't actually go to Iraq, but I've been on deployment many times and
it sucks man when you're that far away from home and you're in a different
country; it's nothing like this, nothing like this at all. It's totally
180 degrees different so to go over there and have those guys so excited
to see a show, to see a rock band, and coming up to you after the show
and saying "you made my year" you know because they have been over there
for over a year.
Dave: I concur.
antiMUSIC: Recently there have been
many bands that have been putting out these anti-war type songs, for example
System of a Down's new one (referring to B.Y.O.B). You guys took a different
approach and said "we're going to play for them". You know I think that
is real cool.
Kris: Thank you.
Tim: Yeah...you know is has nothing
to do with our political stand and we've said it before, regardless of
what you think of the war, it's like those guys are over there and they're
told to go over there and they go. There's a lot of guys over there that
we talked to that disagree with the war and they don't want to be over
there but they are over there anyway performing their duties as they promised.
So that's the least we can do. You know, no one wants to be in f*cking
Iraq, we're Americans, give me a f*cking break.
Dave: You live in this country,
you should love this country enough to respect the men and women and kids
out there defending our rights to be fat asses and go to McDonalds or go
to see Star Wars at the movies. You know what I'm saying, we're not the
ones carrying the M-16's and s*** so the people all have to have enough
respect for them, if you live in this country. Regardless if you're Democrat,
Republican, Wig, Federalist (Tim repeats the word "Wig" and laughs).
Luke: Another big thing that's a
real important thing is the celebrities and the people who have a status
need to stop f*cking putting their political agenda out there for everyone
else to be a part of because whether or not they are even putting enough
forth out to realize this, they have such influence over their fans. You
know you have kids that worship the grounds these people walk on and it's
like if you say something they'll buy it, they'll believe it and you have
to be careful with that. That is why we don't make political statements,
we each and everyone one of us have our own opinions about that and we
express our opinions by voting, that's what voting is for. I just wanted
to put that out there that I think those people should just chill with
that s***.
antiMUSIC: Now the current tour raps
up in the beginning of July. What does the band have planned after then?
Kris: Stay on the road! we'll be
on the road all year. Mid July part of August we're going to do some additional
tour dates in there we're going to get filled in. In the fall we might
go to Europe possibly is what we got planned.
Dave: We got confirmed dates through
July but our plan is to definitely stay on tour.
antiMUSIC: So let's go back a little
bit since you have had it a little crazy lately. After the release of your
debut CD, you guys played the main stage at Ozzfest, which were some huge
shows, and then all of a sudden you were unsigned without a vocalist and
had one less guitarist. What was going through your mind at this time?
Dave: (mockingly) Quitting (laughs)
I felt like being a big quitter! no I'm joking.
Tim: What I thought was cool was
that for a while we probably thought it was going to happen first of all
when Marky would somehow self destruct. So I think we already had seen
in coming so it didn't discourage us, we automatically just started writing
lyrics for the music we had. Everyone came over my house and we f*cking
sat there and wrote lyrics and obviously we needed a singer and mapped
out how the f*ck we were going to get a new singer and how we were going
to have people audition. That all came down and we got Luke, Luke was kind
of like this guy who was in Bakersfield obviously via Alabama and it sort
of all worked out. I guess it happened all so fast my point is we never
really had time, at least I didn't, to worry about anything. We knew we
had a record deal with Earache and we promised them a record and that's
what our focus was, was to put out the best record we could.
Dave: We have been here on the road
and we have ran into a few kids that were like "yeah it's been so long
since I've seen you guys" and granted it probably it has been the longest
break that we've had in between albums but you know it's still only been
a year. In the grand scheme of things we've been busy even though we haven't
been out on the road and haven't been visible and you guys haven't been
able to see an Adema show. We've been arguably more busy because we had
more of the drama to deal with readjusting to OK we lost our record deal,
we got a new record deal, we have a new singer. We've been busy even though
we haven't been out. This obviously was the goal was to get back to this
point.
Kris: There was no doubt that we
weren't going to put out a third record; we knew that we were going to
do that. It just took us a little while longer because we lost a singer,
label, like you said. Now we're rockin harder than ever. This bands out
whole lives and we just have to focus on this band 100 percent of the time
and that's how we got through all of that. Just kind of sticking together,
believers.
antiMUSIC: Now Mike left because he
was not getting along with Marky. Now that Marky is gone, has there been
any talk between you guys and Mike about him coming back?
(note: this part of the interview can
be a little confusing for the reader as to whether the band is referring
to Mike or Mark because they switch from one to the other. To sum things
up: Both Mike and Mark are gone for good. The band will stick with this
lineup and they are happier then they have ever been. The band is really
excited to be on tour with this lineup and to have all the other stuff
behind them. They are ready to move foreword with their career and head
in the direction the hearts have been telling them to go but for many reasons
have been held back. Now those sources holding them back are no longer
existent and Adema can let their hearts take them away.)
Tim: No. We don't talk to Marky.
Mikey we talk to and Mikey came to our show in L.A. But you know that was
the whole thing between those two and we were kind of thrown in the middle
of it so we probably have some sort of resentment towards Mikey I'm sure
for a while. Now Marky I don't know if we'll ever talk to that guy again.
Dave: Yeah I don't really have anything
to say to the guy. He obviously left us kind of high and dry if was his
own selfish problems but he's got his own little things that are his business
and I'm not going to air the stuff. But anyone that is selfish enough to
put all that s***, personal problems, whatever the case may be "umm, drugs,
uhh" (*coughs* - Tim laughs) but as far as the band it's obviously that
he doesn't care as much as I do about this band and I don't want to be
in a band who doesn't love it as much as I do, that don't want to make
it their lives, you know what I mean? He just chose a different path and
that's fine you know; more power to him. I hope he finds the happiness
he's looking for, some thing for Mike.
Kris: Well this band now on a creative
level number one, musically and on a friendship level the whole thing,
we're a better band now than we ever were. We're just looking foreword,
we're not looking back. Luke's the man and we're happier than we've ever
been. Planets is our best album and we're going to continue to go
in that direction. What that record sounds like, that's the direction we're
going to continue to go in.
antiMUSIC: Now let's talk about your
guys' new label. You guys got lucky in a way that you have already played
large shows like Ozzfest, gone Gold with your self titled CD, and now you're
on independent label. Does that help you guys you think?
Tim: In a way it does because we
got to produce our own record this time and we had a lot of control over
that kind of thing. Earache had already thrown a lot of money into our
band and people know who we are and we established our fan base over the
first four years. So that promotion thing is us right now and we're doing
our thing and you know to me it's more honest way of doing things, the
way we're doing it right now. It's like paying our dues a different way
for a bigger thing. We got our first record, the big gold record and all
that bulls*** or whatever but I think this time in our life is where our
payoff will be big huge in the end. So I think we're all really excited
about what we're doing right now and going in and playing all these towns
that we've never played or we've only been once, you know what I mean?
It's cool to come back.
Dave: Just to be able to have this
level of control is refreshing; it kind of got where the band was out of
our grasp. It was this big machine, the car was driving itself and we didn't
have a hold of the steering wheel. And now it's kind of like we can control
it and hold the reigns and kind of control the direction. You know what
I'm saying? We got a vision, we know what we want to do; we can do it.
We got to a point where we didn't kind of have control and that's probably
why certain people abuse the privilege because it is a privilege to be
doing this. It's not a right. It is a job but I don't want to think of
it as a job because it's a privilege and I'm honored to be able to do this.
And anybody else who thinks it's [not] you know Mother f*ckers are missing
out. What is there not to love about traveling the world with your boys,
getting free beer and you know it's like that's what it's all about. I've
been wanting to do this since I was 15 and I get to live my dream. There's
a lot of a**holes I went to school with that are working at Wal-Mart and
hating their wives and hating their jobs. So I've got a lot to be thankful
for.
antiMUSIC: So you have a new album called
Planets, I think you could take yourself out of that Nu-metal category
you might have been [I would say] plagued with [when you were] with Marky
and place yourself in a more dynamic category with such bands as APC or
Incubus.
Kris: I agree.
antiMUSIC: Well that is exactly my question,
Would you agree?
Dave: Yeah. Yeah I do agree. I never
even when everyone else was calling us nu-metal, we've always called ourselves
a rock band. Even when we had a guy that made us sound like another nu-metal
band, you know what I mean? But I'm fine with that if the public wants
to perceive it [that way]. Having a guy that actually can sing, has a real
voice, instead of whines "OK, if that makes us or earns us more respect."
Kris: That's the thing; we've always
been a rock band, we've always been a rock n roll band. We just didn't
have a rock singer. We had a nu-metal singer. And now we have a rock singer.
antiMUSIC: When I first popped it [Planets]
into the CD player and heard the first track I could just tell the difference.
If you listen to your first CD and Unstable, both CDs start off
with a hard kind power chord type sound, for this one you start off with
more a complex guitar beginning. (everyone in the band is nodding their
heads and express their agreeing with "yeah")
And it's like "wow this is totally different".
Kris: Yeah it is, thank you.
antiMUSIC: So I was wondering, was that
the way Adema was heading already or was it all the things you guys went
though?
Kris: I think Luke has a huge [thing]
to do with bringing that classic kind of rock sound that we wanted, you
know? His melodies are just perfect. His singing voice is (with a smile
from Kris) very easy on the ears, you know, nice to listen to. And it makes
our music perfect and it gives us that rock [sound] you know. See that's
the thing, you can be a killer rock band but unless you have a guy that
is really singing his heart out and singing with feeling, it's not going
to cut through and make you [good] you know I believe that Luke adds a
huge rock sound to our music, someone sum this up for me.
Tim: (who happens to be in another
room at this part of the interview, chimes back in to help Kris out) Here,
here, I'll do it. Here's the deal. The three of us were in the studio by
our selves; there was nobody around. We were going in this direction because
we didn't have Mikey in the room and I love Mikey to death but he would
slow our process down. He might work in some other band but he didn't work
in our band that way, he would slow our process down musically. The three
of us were in there with these raw tracks, raw guitar, bass, drums and
this is what came out of it. I mean, it's been wanting to come out of us
for the last five year (Kris agrees with a "yeah") and it was obvious that
Marky couldn't sing to this s*** and he was a f*cking pussy anyway, so
he f*cking took off like a bitch. Well that's what it was and that's what
had happened and it sums it all up really and that's what all we've been
saying and that's why were so excited, that's why we're so f*ckin like,
"we'll f*ckin take on the f*ckin world and we'll start from the bottom
and then go to the top, we don't care and we'll say we don't care. Every
mother f*cker's heard it from a f*ckin five year old kid to my mom loves
this s***, so f*ckin you know what I mean? And my mom don't love nothin!"
(everyone laughs)
Kris: You know we weren't thinking
well we gotta do this or that or that, we were just doing it, it was just
pouring out of us. We were in the moment and this is the way Adema is supposed
to sound. We finally captured the true Adema sound. So we're happy about
the future as well. It's all good.
antiMUSIC: OK guys, last question. You're
going to have fans that listened to your old stuff and people that listen
to your new stuff; like the old or like the new. What do you have to say
to both sets of fans?
Dave: It's not really up for us
to say, it's up to the fans. Anyone that has turned on the new stuff and
have come up [to us] actually at every gig and at least one kid will go
man I love the new record, I like the old stuff, I didn't know what to
expect but you guys f*cking smoked like the old band, like the live shows
are a lot tighter, way louder!"
Tim: You know what you can tell
them? You can tell them that we promise them that we're not gunna f*cking
go in and make some formulated record because that's what we think we're
supposed to be. They might not agree with the way we're going but we're
trying our f*cking hardest to make the best record; we're not trying our
hardest to make the next best single to go on the radio. That's been our
philosophy; we're not going to be that band that you listen to that half-asses.
Kris: I would also like to say to
the old folks and ask the old fans as well as the people that might have
not liked the old Adema to listen to the new Adema. In fact, listen to
Planets three times and if you don't like it then get stoned and listen
to it one more time (everyone laughs) and then if you don't like it after
that, then you don't have to [listen to it] (more laughter). At least give
it that chance, you know what I mean? Listen to the record and as someone
who likes rock n roll music will like that record. That's where it's at.
Dave: I like that, that's good.
That's pretty good.
I would like to conclude the end of this
article with a short CD review of Planets. I decided to do this
because I received the album from the record label the day before the concert
and I was unable to incorporate a lot of the album into my interview. I
felt it would be unfair to the band for me to talk about an album which
I had not even listened to all the way through. I even expressed this concern
with Kris after the concert, which he understood and I made sure to tell
him I would talk about the album outside of the interview because after
now being able to listen to it more, this truly is Adema's best CD yet.
Planets is a much more musically
challenging and technical album than its predecessors. I would like to
emphasize a statement I made in my interview: When I first heard the first
few second of the new CD I knew right away that this was not the "old"
Adema we were use to. Adema and Unstable both start of with
basic power chord sounds, yet Planets starts off with a more technical
guitar riff. Luke's voice is, well exactly that, a voice, and a good one
at that. Listening to the old Adema, you could really hear the half brother
of Jonathan Davis in Marky's voice and his vocals were very limited. The
diversity in Luke's singing enables the band to play more technical and
melodic music and the vocals complement it perfectly. Songs range from
heavy to acoustic with a mix of both in between and as Kris described Luke's
voice to me "it's very easy on the ears" without any "whining" like you
might have heard in their old music. If you're expecting the old Adema,
well you're not going to find it. If you are expecting a better Adema,
well you will definitely find that. Talking with the band I knew that this
was where their heart was and this is their passion and you can hear it
in the CD. I highly suggest both fans of the old Adema and non-fans to
check this CD out. If you like Hoobastank, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle,
and Taproot you will like this CD because it has a nice blend of all of
these bands.
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